SEASON 3 · EPISODE 07
Making magic in dark times
We interview ACLU lawyer extraordinaire - Chase Strangio - about the ongoing fight for trans rights. Get ready to be inspired by what he has to say.
Chase Strangio is a human rights superhero. As the first openly trans lawyer to argue in front of the Supreme Court in the US vs. Skrmetti case - he expertly explains the overlap between the attack on trans rights and the attacks on abortion right.
THE CONVERSATION
We cover a lot of territory in the episode - from trans healthcare to women in sports to what it’s like to argue in front of the Supreme Court. Chase is brilliant and he shares his take on this moment in history and how even in dark times, we can still find joy and humanity. We can still care for one another while pushing for more just laws.
“I've never understood trans advocacy as being anything other than a gender justice project grounded in bodily autonomy. And so when we think about the connections between advocating for access to medical care for trans people and resisting bans on abortion, that's always been central to the project as I've understood it.”.
The conversation around trans rights may be challenging for you to have, but this episode gives you the language to navigate these discussions with curiosity and facts.
WHAT WE'RE READING/LISTENING TO/WATCHING
This episode of Engagement Party — if you love to travel and have noticed how all cities are starting to look the same you’ll love this conversation with Rick Steves.
LUPIN — sometimes the universe knows you need a new season of one of your very favorite shows.
Sufjan has a new holiday album coming out — And he released this song yesterday. The full album is out later this week.
ONE THING TO DO
Vote! It’s that simple. If you live in NC, the polls are open until 7:30pm (don’t forget your ID).
Talk soon,
Bev & Jonas
Outlawed is hosted by Dr. Beverly Gray and Dr. Jonas Swartz. New episodes weekly. Reply to this email — we read everything.